Live from Master Closet Studios, you’re listening to the only podcast on the internet that knows who Ruth really is! It’s the Noobs and the Whovian! 

My name is Austin and I’m the Whovian, and these are my sons Corbin and Tripp and we’re the noobs! 

This is the podcast that introduces a whole new generation to Doctor Who by watching an episode each week and discussing it from the perspective of a dad who’s seen it before, and two sons who haven’t. 

Welcome to Episode 173 covering series 12 episode 5: Fugitive of the Judoon

Super-short Recap

This is the one where the Doctor and her companions mo go fo no jo ro do mo!

Production notes

  • Story #291
  • Originally aired January 26 2020 to 5.57 million viewers
  • Written by: Vinay Patel & Chibs
  • Directed by: Nida Manzoor


  • The Fugitive Doctor – Jo Martin
    • First person of color to portray the Doctor!
    • Played a prison official in Batman Begins
    • Eastenders
    • Doctors


  • Name of the episode spoken in dialogue?
    • nope!
  • Creature of the week
    • Judoon!
      • This is the first RTD-era baddie to appear in the Chibnall era
      • They got a bit of an upgrade
      • Taking their horn is the biggest insult possible
      • The captain was named Pol-Kon-Don in honor of a friend of Chibs named Paul Condon who had died
  • Psychic paper
    • You’re an Imperial Regulator!
  • Needless sacrificial death!
    • Lee’s death was an actually HELPFUL sacrificial death!

Other stuff we noticed

  • Alright Monday, do your worst!
    • Don’t say that when you’re in a Doctor Who episode!!!!!
  • Corbin thinks that All-ear Alan got his name a different way. Not because he listens a lot
  • The coffee shop guy wasn’t too worried about the rhino aliens! He just pushed the guy!
  • A platoon of Judoon, near the moon
    • Your platoon of Judoon near… that lagoon. More of a canal… 

Who’s Who?

  • Who is Captain Jack?
    • Last seen (on Doctor Who) in The End of Time in 2010.
      • Although he was doing Torchwood through 2011
    • All the noobs out there knew the Judoon were comin, but not so much with ol’ Cap’n Jack!
    • The rest of us knew about it for WEEKS!
    • Seriously?! Three of you?
    • Kiiinda cheesy. But a good cheesy.
      • Mickey also called him cheesy the first time they met
  • Who is Ryan Sinclair?
    • He’s Jack’s favorite
  • Who is Graham O’Brien?
    • Second time he’s been mistaken for the Doctor
  • Who is Yasmin “Yaz” Khan?
    • Space police and British police are basically the same?
    • She faced down the Judoon pretty fiercely 
  • Who is the Doctor?
    • She’s spending hours at the control trying to find something. And she thinks they haven’t noticed
    • She leaves them on earth and goes “for an hour” but she’s always late.
      • She’s going home, alone
    • She’s kinda testy
    • Is there even a word for how dumb you are?! Doctor?
    • I know my own past, I lived through it.
    • She had a problem when Ruth Doctor reversed the gun to kill Gat.
    • I’ve lived for thousands of years. So many I’ve lost count.

Can we talk about the fugitive doctor

  • Who is Ruth Clayton?
    • She started working on instinct, fighting off a bully
    • She was using a biological cloak
    • The lighthouse was superimposed on the Doctor and then slid over to Ruth
    • SHE’S THE DOCTOR!!!!!!
    • She’s got a job? Not really, not one you can apply for, not one you can leave
    • She’s in Thirteen’s past because she doesn’t know anything about the destruction(s) of Gallifrey
    • She celebrated her 44th birthday. This episode aired 44 years and two days after The Brain of Morbius
    • Mind of Morbius

Classic Who Connections

  • No Classic Who Connections, just a Classic Who Disconnection. The Doctor claims that the Doctor never uses weapons. This is not true. Classic Who Doctors used weapons all the time. They even used guns. 

Overall impressions

  • Overall rating out of 10
    • Jared – 9 plot twists
    • Austin – 9.5 broken horns
    • Corbin – 8 judoon
    • Tripp – 8 fugitive doctors 
  • Creep Level – out of 500
    • Jared – 25
    • Austin – 25
    • Corbin – 10
    • Tripp – 1


  • Who is the Timeless Child?
    • Tripp – something from the Doctor and the Master’s past that they don’t remember
    • Corbin – it’s not related to them at all
  • Who is the Fugitive Doctor?
    • Tripp – the Timeless Child! Who is being hidden from Thirteen by the Time Lords. And the Master Found out
    • Corbin – 

The Game Plan 

  • Still no word on when Series 13 will premiere, but there was other big news! It’s been officially announced that Russell T. Davies is coming back as showrunner! 
  • Next week, we’re covering series 12 episode 6, Praxeus.


Noobs and the Whovian is a production of Master Closet Studios, where it’s always smaller on the inside. Your Senior Producer is Austin Reason. Our Audio Engineer is Thing One: Tripp Reason. Our Production Editor is the Other One: Corbin Reason. Special thanks to for the trivia, and to Jared for the Classic Who Connection. Shout outs to Victor and Jared for their Patreon support.

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