153 The Lie of the Land

This is the one where the Doctor isn’t with the monks, Missy isn’t the bad guy, and Bill doesn’t die. Again.

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My name is Austin and I’m the Whovian, and these are my sons Corbin and Tripp and we’re the noobs! 

This is the podcast that introduces a whole new generation to Doctor Who by watching an episode each week and discussing it from the perspective of a dad who’s seen it before, and two sons who haven’t. 

Welcome to Episode 153 covering series 10 episode 8, The Lie of the Land 

Super-short Recap 

This is the one where the Doctor isn’t with the monks, Missy isn’t the bad guy, and Bill doesn’t die. Again.

Production notes

Misc Trivia

  • This is one of only 11 stories (4 in NuWho) in which the TARDIS is never seen


  • Name of the episode spoken in dialogue?
    • Nope!
  • Creature of the week
    • The Monks
      • That opening bit!
      • The Monka Lisa
      • They were on the moon!
      • Memory Crimes Act of 1975
      • They put a statue of a Monk in front of every major landmark
  • Jiggery Pokery
    • TARDIS 
      • The TARDIS has a junk drawer!
        • Some old takeaway menus, 50 Danish krone, and a gps unscrambler thingy
    • Sonic
    • Psychic paper
    • Random 
  • Jibberty Jabberty
  • Needless sacrificial death
  • Attack Eyebrows
  • The Question/Doctor Who?
  • The Doctor Breaks the Fourth Wall
  • Jammie Dodger sighting
    • Running count – 4
  • Adventures in closed captioning!
  • The march towards 13

Other stuff we noticed 

  • WHY did we meet Penny?!
  • Magpie Electronics in the window
  • Humanity’s tendency to forget. Maybe it’s part of our charm!

Who’s Who?

  • Who is Bill?
    • She has an imaginary mum.
    • That bald bloke who looks like an egg
    • You brilliant ridiculous girl!
  • Who is Nardole?
    • It’s me, Nardy!
    • His imaginary friend left him for someone else!
    • Tarovian neck pinch
    • His left hand isn’t his original hand, he won it… 
  • Who is Missy?
    • Some kind of monster
    • The other last of the Time Lords
    • She once built a gun out of leaves
    • She pushed a wee girl into a volcano
  • Who is the Doctor? 
    • That face he made at the end of his opening bit was diabolical!

Can we talk about Bill’s “sacrifice” scene?

Classic Who Connections

  • The Tarovian neck pinch that Nardole used was similar to what Ian Chesterton used on Ixta in The Aztecs.

Overall impressions

  • Overall rating out of 10
    • Jared – 8 Vulcan Tarovian neck pinches
    • Austin – 6 Monka Lisa’s
    • Corbin – 6 incorrect ways to open a door
    • Tripp -8.5 overdone mums 
  • Creep Level – out of 500
    • Jared – 100
    • Austin – 50
    • Corbin – 50
    • Tripp – 50


  • When Does Missy get out?
    • Corbin: episode before World Enough and Time, so the finale two-parter is about her
    • Tripp: World Enough and Time
    • Jared: towards the end of the series
  • How does Bill leave?
    • Tripp: she dies, she sacrifices herself to save the universe
    • Corbin: Missy kills her
    • Jared: Missy uses her as a pawn to escape and that will drive Bill to quit the TARDIS
  • Is Missy turning good?
    • Tripp: she’ll change a bit, but not really
    • Corbin: not at all

The Game Plan 

  • Next week, we’re covering episode 8, The Lie of the Land.
  • Then, it’s back into some Classic Who with our first official story from The Master Plan with 1976’s Fourth Doctor serial: The Deadly Assassin!


Noobs and the Whovian is a production of Master Closet Studios, where it’s always smaller on the inside. Your Senior Producer is Austin Reason. Our Audio Engineer is Thing One: Tripp Reason. Our Production Editor is the Other One: Corbin Reason. Special thanks to tardis.fandom.com for the trivia, and to Jared for the Classic Who Connection. Shout outs to Victor and Jared for their Patreon support.

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