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My name is Austin and I’m the Whovian, and these are my sons Corbin and Tripp and we’re the noobs!

This is the podcast that introduces a whole new generation to Doctor Who by watching an episode each week and discussing it from the perspective of a dad who’s seen it before, and two sons who haven’t. 

Welcome to Episode 122 covering Series 8 episode 7: Kill the Moon

This is the one where the Doctor and Clara have a fight after NOT killing the moon, which is an egg, with a dinosaur in it?

Production notes

  • Story # 248
  • Originally aired October 4, 2014 to 6.91 million viewers
  • Written by: Peter Harness
  • Directed by: Paul Wilmshurst

Misc Trivia 

  • This was originally written for Eleven


  • Courtney Woods – Ellis George
    • This is her last appearance
    • Her next IMDB credit is a mini-series called Small Axe that is premiering on BBC like right now.
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  • Name of the episode spoken in dialogue?
    • Yes, many times
    • Doctor, how do we kill it? Kill the moon? Kill the moon.
  • Creature of the week
    • The bacteria spider – Corbin hates this
    • The egg/space dragon
  • Jiggery Pokery
    • TARDIS 
      • She’ll turn up. Last time you said that, it ended up on the wrong side of the planet!
      • It can be run by DVD?
        • Also, if Courtney doesn’t hold onto the console, she’ll leave her behind?
    • Psychic paper
      • Courtney Woods was using it as a fake ID

Other stuff we noticed 

  • My granny used to put things on Tumblr
  • That’s what we call a new moon

Who’s Who?

  • Who is Danny Pink? 
  • He got his I told ya so moment
  • Who is Clara?
    • Tell me what you knew or I’ll slap you so hard you’ll regenerate.
    • She’s tired of listening to the Doctor.
    • I don’t really understand her reaction to the situation. The whole ending of the episode is tonally weird.
  • Who is the Doctor?
    • Did he REALLY tell Courtney she wasn’t special? That’s not like the Doctor. 
    • It’ll take a long time to shoot him to death cuz he’ll just keep regenerating. In fact, he’s not sure he won’t keep on regenerating forever
    • There are moments in time he can’t see. Little eye-blinks that are gray and hard to see.

Can We Talk About the Physics of Space and the Moon? 

  • Let’s talk about aerodynamics
    • The moon creature flapped its wings and flew away. There’s no air in space, you can’t fly by flapping wings.
  • Let’s talk about the size of the moon
    • the “shell” just evaporates?! No, what the astronaut said would be true – bits of the moon would crash to earth
  • Let’s talk about conservation of mass and energy
    • How the heck did it gain 1.8 billion tons?! That’s not possible, unless it was eating stuff IN SPACE
    • What kind of creature is born pregnant and immediately gives birth?!

Classic Who Connection 

  • The Second Doctor often liked to say “When I say ‘run,’ run”
  • The Fourth Doctor also talked about amniotic fluid in City of Death and also used a yo-yo to assess the amount of gravity in The Ark in Space which is coincidentally where he first pointed out a Bennett oscillator that had been modified and said it was from the late 29th to early 30th century. The final connection for the Fourth Doctor was that he also said that the Earth wasn’t his home. His quote, from the serial Pyramids of Mars was “The Earth isn’t my home, Sarah. I’m a Time Lord. I walk in eternity.” 
  • Apparently Capaldi requested that the yo-yo look similar to the one the Fourth Doctor used.
  • The Third Doctor talked about the Blinovitch Limitation Effect in the serial Day of the Daleks which is probably what the Twelfth Doctor was referring to when he said that Courtney will meet “this bloke called Blinovitch”.
  • They mentioned a meteorite being responsible for the death of the dinosaurs. If the Doctor was there, he might have corrected her because he knew, from the serial Earthshock, that was in fact a time traveling freighter from the 26th century. But perhaps it would have been too hard of a memory to mention because Adric was aboard that freighter
  • The quip about humans losing interest in space travel in the 21st century harks back clear to the Second Doctor in the serial The Seeds of Death.  With the invention of the T-Mat (essentially a teleporter) travel by spaceship is passé. But of course, the Doctor finds that this has left humans vulnerable.
  • Steven Moffat told the writer for this episode to “Hinchcliffe the s#*%” out of the first half. Phillip Hinchcliffe was the Doctor Who producer from 1975-75. This was considered especially scary for the series.

Overall impressions

  • Overall rating out of 10 – 
    • Jared – 9.5 Smacks so hard they can start a Time Lord’s regeneration
    • Austin – 7 angry Claras
    • Corbin – 6 wings in space
    • Tripp –  6.5 stupid moons
  • Creep Level – out of 500
    • Jared – 250 creep levels for 1st half, 50 for the second half
    • Austin – 150
    • Corbin – 10
    • Tripp –  25

The Game Plan

  • Next week we continue with Series 8, Episode 8: Mummy on the Orient Express


Noobs and the Whovian is a production of Master Closet Studios, where it’s always smaller on the inside. Your Senior Producer is Austin Reason. Our Audio Engineer is Tripp Reason. Corbin Reason is our Production Editor. Special thanks to for the trivia, and to Jared for the Classic Who Connection. Shout outs to Victor, Jared, and James for their Patreon support.

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