082 – The Rebel Flesh and The Almost People

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Welcome to Episode 82 covering series 6 episodes 5 and 6: The Rebel Flesh and The Almost People.

Super-short Recap

This is the one where the Doctor, Amy, Rory, and John Smith find themselves on an island in the middle of nowhere. And something strange is happening. Turns out the people living there are making doppelgangers out of greek-style yogurt, called the Flesh, to be their minions. Soon war breaks out! Also, Amy’s not real and hasn’t been for a long, long time.

Remember that one?

Production notes

  • Story # 217
  • Originally aired May 21 & 28, 2011 to 7.35 and 6.72 million viewers
  • Written by: Matthew Graham – also wrote Fear Her with our favorite creepy little girl: Chloe Webber
  • Directed by: Julian Simpson

Misc Trivia

  • As of now, all of the TARDIS crew have been a duplicate at some point.

Cast

  • Miranda Cleaves – Raquel Cassidy
    • Baxter on Downton Abbey
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Checklist

  • Name of the episode spoken in dialogue?
    • There are people coming. Well, almost. Almost coming? Almost people.
    • What are these harnesses for? Uh… the almost people?
    • Both of these were said in The Rebel Flesh.
  • Creature of the week
    • The Flesh
  • Bad CGI
    • Jennifer snaking out of the bathroom stall
    • Jennifer turning into a monster at the end
  • Bow ties are cool
    • Same bow tie. Which is cool, because bow ties always are and always will be cool.
  • Geronimo
    • From the Ganger-Doctor
    • Running count – 7
  • Stuff the Doctor loves
    • A cockerel – I’ve got to get to that cockerel before all hell breaks loose. Never thought I’d get to say that again!
  • Jiggery Pokery 
    • Psychic paper
      • Show your critical systems. Which one? You know which one.
    • Random
      • What was the snowglobe for?!
  • Needless sacrificial death
    • The one worker closed the door from the wrong side, for no good reason.
    • The Ganger-Doctor and the Ganger-Cleaves both stayed holding the door “long enough to let them dematerialize” – WHY?!
  • Eye-patch Lady
    • Appeared in a wall in a room in the monastery
    • And again
    • And then at the very end

Who’s Who?

  • Who is Rory?
    • There’s times when Rory is more the Doctor than the Doctor – Jennifer is out there and she’s on her own. I’m going to get her.
  • Who is Amy?
    • She’s preggers!
      • The Doctor kept telling her to breath
      • Then to push, but only when she tells you to
      • After they escaped the gas, she held her stomach and said “I coughed so much, I must’ve pulled a muscle or something.”
    • She’s a ganger!
      • Ironic given her prejudice towards the Ganger-Doctor
    • Schroedinger’s Baby
      • The noobs basically thought there was some wibbly wobbly stuff that needed to settle down and that’s why the scanner couldn’t settle on positive or negative.
      • Yall were so wrong! 😀
  • Who is The Doctor? 
    • He’s a ganger!
      • He kept giving Amy (and the others) chances to be the best of humanity! “Are you sure this is what you want?”
      • Sure you’re not prejudiced? Nice try, but I know ok? We’ve been through too much together.
      • You tricked him into an act of weakness. No, I tricked him into an act of humanity.
    • I am and always will be the optimist. The hoper of far-flung hopes and dreamer of improbable dreams.
    • He was the one that grabbed Amy and pushed her against the wall! That was the original Doctor. 
    • Am I crazy Doctor? Well you did once plug your brain into the core of a planet to hold its orbit and win a bet…

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Classic Who Connection 

  • As the Second Doctor visited a monastery in The Abominable Snowmen as the Second Doctor. This is a cult classic (mostly because of the lacking special effects. Unfortunately, this is a lost serial, only the second episode remains but you can get an audio recording of the full serial. 
  • The line “a lot of things can happen in an hour. An entire planet can be turned inside out in an hour.” Is directly from the TV movie, Doctor Who
  • The Doctor has had doubles of himself many times in Classic and New Who. This is the one that he plays with the most.
  • At the start of The Almost People the Ganger Doctor is working to stabilize and he goes through a number of Classic Doctor imitations. 
    • “One day, we will get back. Yes, one day.” Is from the First Doctor (but a bit of a misquote, he actually said “we shall get back”
    • “Reverse the polarity of the neutron flow” is a catchphrase of the Third Doctor
    • Jelly Babies are a favorite of the Fourth Doctor
  • The Ganger Doctor also talks about cybermats which we saw in The Tomb of the Cybermen
  • The Ganger Doctor (but really the Time Lord Doctor) asks to be called John Smith. This dates back to the Second Doctor serial The Wheel in Space

Overall impressions

  • Overall rating out of 10 – 
    • Jared – 9 Eyes looking at you asking why
    • Austin – 9 cockerels
    • Corbin –  8.5 glitching faces
    • Tripp – 10 long legged stags 
  • Creep Level – out of 500
    • Jared – 325
    • Austin – 375
    • Corbin – 300
    • Tripp – 355

Theories

  • What will happen with Eleven dying?
    • Corbin thinks this will be the end of series 6 and they will avert Eleven’s death.
    • Tripp thinks that the Doctor we saw die was a ganger.
  • Who is the impossible astronaut?
    • Corbin thinks it’s the little girl.
    • Tripp thinks it’s River.
  • Who is the little girl?
    • She’s a timelord
    • Corbin thinks she’s Amy’s daughter. 
      • Her regeneration and strength are a result of time travel.
    • Tripp thinks it’s River.
  • Who is River?
    • Corbin thinks she’s married to the Doctor. She’s in Stormcage for killing someone, even though not the Doctor.
    • Tripp thinks it’s obvious that she’s married to the Doctor, and she’s in Stormcage because she killed a ganger of the Doctor.

Listener Input  

  • Christina had some input on The Doctor’s Wife
    • I have a theory that the Doctor may not be as bad a driver as he appears. Perhaps it looks that way because he’s trying to go where he wants to go, trying to take over the controls. Sexy said she takes him where he needs to go which to me implies that she’s in charge of the controls. Imagine the passenger in a car suddenly reaching over to steer…it would make driving extremely difficult (and dangerous kids, don’t try that at home) and from the outside it would look like the driver had no clue what he was doing. 
    • This was such a good episode that we watched it, listened to your podcast and watched it again. Thought we’d comment on some of the things you said in the podcast. 
    • The way uncle died was my favorite because it reminded me of Monty Python. I half expected someone to walk by with a wheelbarrow shouting “bring out your dead”
    • Xavier says Bigger on the Inside was a better title. The Doctor’s Wife doesn’t make sense since the Doctor’s wife is River. 
    • I do not listen to you on an iPod, I listen on my phone, BUT I call it my iPod.

The Game Plan 

  • Next week we’re covering season 6 episode 7: A Good Man Goes to War.

Closing

Noobs and the Whovian is a production of Master Closet Studios, where it’s always smaller on the inside. Your Senior Producer is Austin Reason. Our Audio Engineer is Tripp Reason. Corbin Reason is our Production Editor. Special thanks to tardis.wikia.com for the trivia, Jared for the Classic Who Connection. Shout outs to Victor and Jared for their Patreon support.

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